Posted on 28 March 2011 at 18:20h
It’s atomic physics with the first years and we are working our way through the models of the atom in chronological order. When we got to Thomson and the discovery of the electron I made a statement something like this: “The electrons couldn’t have been atoms because their mass was far too small so were considered to be like small plums in a pudding”. This provoked the obvious question “How did they know the mass of an atom”. Hmm, not quite sure about that. I know how they do it now (mass spectrometer and all that) but how did they do it then?
In 1811 Avogadro came up with the idea that equal volumes of gas at the same pressure and temperature should contain the same number of atoms. If this is the case then it is possible to measure the relative masses of different gases by simply measuring the mass of equal volumes, so 1litre of Helium has a mass 4x the mass of 1 litre of Hydrogen etc. But to know the mass of 1 atom you have to know how many atoms there are and Avagadro didn’t know that even though the number is named after him.
Around 1865, by considering how far gas atoms move between collisions and the pressure they exert on their container, Johann Loschmidt calculated how many atoms there are in 1 cm3 this enabled him to estimate the mass of a gas atom. The derivation looks a bit tricky which is probably why we tend to leave this bit of history out of the story.
Thomson discovered the electron in 1897 so would have known the approximate mass of the atom.
I was going to post a photo of Loschmidt but when I saw what Avogadro looked like I just had to post his photo instead.
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Are you referring to his large brain or his intelligent expression - or perhaps both?
Posted by Geoffrey Neuss on 31 March 2011 at 17:55h
I thought Avagadro was a physicist but to come to think of it he does look more like a chemist.
Posted by Chris Hamper on 31 March 2011 at 16:05h
You should leave the chemistry to chemists Chris! Avogadro is famous for coming up with the idea of molecules (atoms are Dalton). Avogadro's work in 1811 was actually entitled "Essai d'une manière de déterminer les masses relatives des molécules élémentaires des corps, et les proportions selon lesquelles elles entrent dans ces combinaisons" so his idea was that equal volumes of gases at the same temperature and pressure contain the same number of molecules - not atoms! Even though it built upon the observations made by Gay-Lussac in 1809 no one really took Avogadro's work seriously until the work of another Italian chemist in 1858 - Stanislav Cannizzaro - showed its importance.
Posted by Geoffrey Neuss on 30 March 2011 at 20:48h